Woodhull Lineage in England

Source: I used the following Website as a worksheet to establish my Woodhull “blood” lineage from Walter Flandrensis, Lord of Wodhull (Odell) who thus became Walter de Wahull. It was challenging task because the purpose of their “project” was to show the de Wahull inheritance of “Title” (Baron) and “Estate”... which doesn’t follow my “blood” lineage… so I had to find and insert my “blood” lineage and then remove those that weren’t in my “blood” lineage. So, if you compare this Website chart with mine (below) you’ll find differences.

Odell Castle after alterations of 1864-65

Odell Castle Estate (Odell and Wahull Manors), Bedfordshire, England

https://www.geni.com/projects/Odell-Castle-Estate-Odell-Wahull-Manors-Bedfordshire-England/29813   [geni.com - Projetcs]

29th GGF Eustace I Count of Boulogne 1004-1049 m: Maud aka Matilda de Leuven
28th GGF Lambert II Count of Lens 1022-1054 m: unknown

27th GGF Walter the Fleming aka Seier de Flanders, de Seton; also nicknamed Dougall the Black Stranger (unknown) m: Jonet de Quincy
26th GGF Walter de Wahull unkn m: Rosia

25th GGF Simon de Wahull 1110-1149 m: Sibyl

24th GGF Walter de Wahull 1130-1193 m: Rosesia

23rd GGF Walter de Wahull 1169-1209 m: ?

22nd GGF Saher de Wahull 1193-1250 m: Alice

21st GGF Walter de Wahull 1227-1269 m: Helewyse de Vivon

20th GGF John de Wahull 1249-1296 m: Agnes Pinkney

19th GGF Thomas de Wahull 1273-1318 m: Hawise Praers

18th GGF John de Wahull 1318-1348 m: Eleanora

17th GGF Nicholas de Wahull 1347-1410 m: Margaret L Foxcote

16th GGF Thomas de Wahull 1387-1420 m: Elizabeth Chetwode

15th GGF Thomas de Wahull 1410-1441 m: Isabel Trussell

14th GGF John de Wahull 1435-1490 m: Joan Etwell

13th GGF Fulk de Wahull 1459-1508 m: Anne Newenham

Surname changes to Woodhull -Refer to Media: [1] Woodhull, Americans of Royal Descent

Nicholas Woodhull 1482-1551

Fulk Woodhull 1530-1613

Lawrence Woodhull 1570-1620

Emigrant to America: Richard Woodhull I (1620-1690)

Born in America: Son, Richard Woodhull II (1649-1699)

Details added to my basic “blood” lineage chart (from above). Sources used (for the details I added): [1] A General and Heraldic dictionary of the peerages of England, Ireland and Scotland;

Walter de Flanders, de Lens came to England with William the Conqueror in 1066 and held as feudal lord, at the time of the General Survey, considerable estates in the counties of Bedford and Northampton, of which Wahull (now Wodhull) in the former shire, was the head of the barony. To this Walter succeeded. Walter de Wahull. There is much confusion around the Walters, refer to Lineage of the Flanders in Normandy before the 1066 Battle of Hastings at the end of this document.
(Jody Gray): in my Ancestry.com Family Tree, I used "calculated" birth dates...

• Walter the Fleming aka Seier de Flanders, de Seton; also nicknamed Dougall the Black Stranger (1046-1124) m: Jonet de Quincy, b. 1068d. ? *age 17 when Walter is born
  Children: Walter
  Notes for Walter: *age 39 when Walter is born.

• Walter de Wahull, son of Walter the Fleming;

Walter de Wahull (1085-1147) m: Rosesia, b. 1090 d. ? *age 19 when Simon is born

Children: Simon

Notes for Walter: *age 24 when Simon is born. Residence: Bedford aka Bedforshire, England

• Simon de Wahull, son of Walter

Simon (1110-1149) m: Sibyl d’Anjou, b. 1112 d. 1165 *age 18 when Walter is born

Children: Walter, Simon, Sasha

Notes for Simon *age 20 when Walter is born. He flourished around the middle of the 12th century. With his wife Sibyl gave the church of Landford to the Knights Templars. Notes from other sources [1] Simon’s son Walter was 19 years old when Simon died; Archbishop Henry assumed his wardship

• Walter de Wahull son of Simon

Walter de Wahull, II b. 1130 d. 1174 (1193) m: Roesia, b. 1149 d. ?

Children: Walter, Simon, John, Roesia, Agnes

Notes for Walter: *age 39 when Walter is born. Baron by 1160 and until at least 1172; certified, in the 12th year of the reign of Henry II (1165) on the assessment for marrying the King’s daughter, his knight’s fees to be twenty-seven and three.  He was later involved in the insurrection of Robert, Earl of Leicester, and was made prisoner in a battle near St. Edmundsbury. Notes from other sources [1] Walter De Wahull married 1st King Henry II’s daughter, Albreda Taillebois (widow of Guy de St. Valery), they had no issue; married 2nd Rosia, they had two daughters and two sons, Simon and John

• Walter de Wahull son of Walter

Walter de Wahull 1169-1209 m: ? this family tree (from geni.com) states he was the husband of Albreda Taillesbois; however, she was the first wife of his grandfather (Walter) and they had no children [1]

Notes for Walter: *age 24 when Saher is born

• Saher de Wahull, son of Walter

Saher de Wahull (1193-1250) -son of Walter  (1169-1209) and brother of Simon who died bef 1197 *died in 1250 m: Alice ?, b. ? d. ?

Children: Walter, Simon

Notes for Saher: *age 33 when Walter is born. Notes from other sources [1] John de Wahull d. 1216 leaving his sisters his heirs… Wahull devolved upon the male heir of the family, Saher de Wahull d. 1250.

• Walter de Wahull, son of Saher

Walter b. 1227 d. 1269 m: Helewyse, daughter of Hugh de Vivon b. ? d. ?

Children: John, Beatrice

Notes for Walter: *age 22 when John is born. - born 1227, died before 1269; Notes: after doing his homage and giving security to pay 100 pounds for his relief, had living of the honor of Wahull, and the other lands of his inheritance.

• John de Wahull, son of Walter

John de Wahull b. 1249 d. 1295 m: Agnes, daughter of Henry Pinkney b. ? d. ?

Children: Thomas

Notes for John: *age 24 when Thomas is born. Attained his majority in 1269 - died 1296. In the 22nd, year of Edward I. reign (1293) he had military summons to march into Gascony (France), and also to proceed against the Welsh. was succeeded by his son

• Thomas de Wahull, son of John

Thomas de Wodhull b. 1273 d. 1303 *I had to change his death date to aft 1318 (his son’s birth date) m: Hawise, daughter of Henry Praers b. ? Bedforshire, England d. ?

Children: John

Notes for Thomas: This feudal lord was summoned to Parliament as a Baron 1/26/1297, in the 25th year of Edward I; *age 44 when John is born  - died 1303

• John de Wahull, son of John

John Woodhull b. 1318 d. 1348 m: Eleanora b. 1325 d. ? *age 21 when Nicholas is born

Children: John (1318), Elizabeth, Eleanora John Woodhull m2: Eleanora Nicholas

Notes for John: *age 23 when Nicholas is born - born about 1320, died 1348

• Nicholas de Wahull, son of John

12 Nicholas de Wahull (Sheriff of Bedfordshire) b. (1347) d. 10/24/1410 m: Margaret L Foxcote, daughter of John Foxcote; b. 1361 d. 1398  *Margaret is 25 when Thomas is born

Children: Thomas (heir), Richard, Edith ?, Margaret ?

Notes for Nicholas: In 1367, his older brother John died without a male heir; Nicholas became heir to the Wahull title and estate (he was  ½ brother of Elizabeth and Eleanor and John (the elder, 1st heir) by his father’s first marriage to Isabel. *Nicholas age 40 when Thomas is born - Nicholas died in 1410

• Thomas de Wahull, son of Nicholas

Thomas de Wahull, son of Nicholas b. 1387 d. 1421 (or 3/22/1420, age 33 -killed in the battle of Bauge) m: Elizabeth Chetwode, sister and co-heir of Sir Thomas Chetwode, b. 1391 d. 1475 *Elizabeth is 19 when Thomas is born

Children: Thomas (heir), William

Notes for Thomas: born about 1387, died in 1421. *age 23 when his son Thomas is born

• Thomas de Wahull, son of Thomas

14 Thomas de Wahull b. 9/2/1410 d. 8/4/1441 (age 30) m: Isabel Trussell, daughter of Sir William Trussell; b. 1415 d. 8/8/1441 *Isabel age 20 when John  is born

Children: John, Thomas, and Isabel

Notes for Thomas: died in 1441. *age 24 when John is born

• John de Wahull, son of Thomas

John b. 1435 d. 9/12/1490 (age 55) m: Joan Etwell, daughter of Henry Etwell; b. 1440 d. 1475 *Joan age 19 when Fulk  is born

[1] Children: Fulk (heir), Thomas, William, John, Elizabeth, Anne, Mary

Notes for John: born 1436, died in 1490; * age 22 when Fulk is born

• Fulk de Wahull, son of John

Fulke Woodhull b. 8/(1459) d. 1508 (age 60) m: Anne Newenham, daughter of William Newenham; b. 1460 d. 1500  *Anne age 22 when Nicholas is born

Children: Nicholas

Notes for Fulk: - died in 1511. Wodhull esq. Baron of Warkworth and Thenford. *Fulk age 22 when Nicholas is born

Of Interest:     A number of years ago Warkworth Castle was burned to the ground, Odell or Great Wodhull Castle has been in ruins for many years, but Thenford Manor with its ancient chapel still remain In the reign of Henry VIII. Nicholas Wodhull, son and heir of Fulk Wodhull, devised Thenford to Fulk Wodhull, Esq., his eldest son by his second with, Elizabeth Parr, daughter and heir of Sir William Parr, of Horton, and it continued in the Wodhull family down to the extinction of the line upon the death of Michael Wodhull, Esq. (1815). http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/ArchivesAndRecordOffice/CommunityArchives/Odell/TheBaronyOfOdell.aspx

References Used
Source: I used the following Website as a worksheet to establish my Woodhull “blood” lineage

Odell Castle Estate (Odell and Wahull Manors), Bedfordshire, England

https://www.geni.com/projects/Odell-Castle-Estate-Odell-Wahull-Manors-Bedfordshire-England/29813   [geni.com - Projetcs]

This link has the same information as the above geni.com link

http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/ArchivesAndRecordOffice/CommunityArchives/Odell/TheBaronyOfOdell.aspx

The Barony of Odell. The medieval Barony of Odell sprang from Walter of Flanders' manor recorded by Domesday Book of 1086… It was the responsibility of the Baron (the Baron de Wahull as he was known at this date) to provide the guards for the castle of Rockingham in Northamptonshire, in common with the Baron of Warden in Northamptonshire and Peterborough Abbey.

Walter the Fleming was succeeded by his son Walter and the title can be traced as follows: the same as the geni.com “project” lineage I used as a worksheet

Notes from other sources [1] 
https://books.google.com/books?id=aB0IAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA549&lpg=PA549&dq=Walter+of+Wodhull&source=bl&ots=djrc9V51pX&sig=aq2wG-xLxgshqKZzfIbIbQae8as&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix0PKt_fzLAhVS8mMKHXZAA7gQ6AEIRzAI#v=onepage&q=Walter%20of%20Wodhull&f=false [1] A General and Heraldic dictionary of the peerages of England, Ireland and Scotland, Extinct, Dormant, and in Abeyance. By John Burke, Esq., Author of a general and heraldic dictionary of peerage and baronetage, etc.Note: Preface, J.B. November 1831.

Companions of William the Conqueror -Battle of Hastings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companions_of_William_the_Conqueror

Eustace II, Count of Boulogne and William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey

https://books.google.com/books?id=uQpgAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=Selah+M+Stevens+New+York&source=bl&ots=TJNEupqZJc&sig=bRwHcRSo3IsjHkBJjHTv_5p_TcY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj02u3a3dfLAhVomoMKHXoHACwQ6AEIMjAF#v=onepage&q=Selah%20M%20Stevens%20New%20York&f=false

[1] Woodhull Genealogy: The Woodhull Family in England and America. Compiled by Mary Gould Woodhull and Francis Bowes Stevens. Published 1904.

Lineage of the Flanders in Normandy before the 1066 Battle of Hastings and William the Conqueror's conquest of England resulting in William ascending to throne as William I King of England; the relocation of the Flemish who helped William in the conquest and were rewarded with land; such is the case of our Walter of Fleming who became became Baron of Wahull (Odell) and his surname wa changed to Walter de Wahull.

Note (Jody Gray) challenge of researching ancestry and lineage before the “modern” use of surnames. Surnames changed when property was attained (e.g. through “baronage”) and there was often a Christian name given at birth yet the person was “called” by a “nickname”. Sampling of the different “names” for the man and his descendants who succeeded to the title and estate of Wahull (Odell): [known in their Flemish homeland as -surname- de Lens -sons of Count Eustace I’s 2nd son Count Lambert de Lens -his father, Eustace I of Boulogne] Walter of Flanders aka Walter of Lens b. 900 (c. 950 became Lord of the Castle of Lens); Walter de Cambray (Flanders) b. 1049; Walter Flandrensis or De Cambray; Dougall “the Black Stranger” [married Jonet de Quincy]; [son of the 1st Seirer de Seton, of de Lens, is known as Dougall de Setoun (Seton) and his Christian name was Walter] Walter the Fleming; Walter de Wahull; … Sometimes confused with Walter the Fleming, Walter of Douai was the Fleming who held the greatest number of estates in Somerset (Devon) where his brother was also to be found… the Walter of Flanders who became Baron of Wahull with a majority of lands in Bedford and Northampton.

The Wahull name was “stabilized” by the Domesday Book: Walter Flandrensis or De Cambray [came to England 1066, and (by) 1086 (Domesday Book)  held a great barony in Bedford, Bucks, and, of which Woodhull or Wahul was the chief seat, and from him descended the barons Wahull, by writ, 1295]; [married Jonet de Quincy].

Walter aka Seier de Flanders, de Seton. B. 1046, Cambray… Lower Normandy, France d. 1124, Scotland m: Jonet de Quincy  b. 1068 d. Scotland

http://www.ornaverum.org/family/french-connection.html The French Connection. No Waddell's charging up the beach at Hastings… in part, that’s because the surname Waddell did not yet exist. Neither, in fact, did surnames in general. The only form of identification (apart from the Christian name) was a territorial title of seigneury such as Duke William of Normandy, Count Eustace of Boulogne or William Malet, Seigneur of Granville. And unless you had such a distinction, your part in the battle, however valiant, would not be recorded or remembered. The author includes a list of “The Proven Companions of William the Conqueror” ; three shown to be in our “blood-lineage”: Eustace II, Count of Boulogne, William Malet, Lord of Graville, William de Warenne, 1st Earl of Surrey… descendants eventually intermarried… started a steady relocation northwards to Scotland… their surnames found common ground with the Waddells… Caroline Wilfreda Bingley nee Waddell (contacted me in 2013) spent a good many decades in painstaking first-hand research in Ireland, England, Scotland and France… Heloise de Vivonia, nee Mallet b. 1247 m: Sir Walter II de Wahull b. 1227, children: John and Beatrice. The Lens lineage:  Lambert II (1022-1054), Count of Lens -Offspring: Sieer* de Lens, Walter de Lens. *probably not his actual forename, as ‘Seier’ is Scots vulgo of French ‘Seigneur’ (ie the Seigneur of Seton). On the other hand, at least one of his Wahull descendants was baptised Saher, so Seier may well have been an early example of rank as praenomen (given or adopted). But more importantly, what was the territorial significance of Seton? Seier’s father Eustace, brother of Walter and he himself had all been granted English estates following the Conquest, as subsequently registered in the Domesday Book of 1086… The Seton estate was actually in Scotland and was granted by King Malcolm III of Scotland to Seier after the latter had fled northwards in the late 1060’s after a military misadventure had brought him into serious disfavor with William I of England.

    From this table we see that Seton (in modern East Lothian) and Odell (in modern Bedfordshire) were two poles of the same familial axis. To quote the reference, there can be no doubt at all that [Walter the Fleming’s] personal heraldic emblem, the triple crescents gules and a field or, of a second son of the Count of Boulogne, flew over both [Seton Palace and Odell Castle].

     http://www2.thesetonfamily.com:8080/directory/seier_de_seton(1).htm

Seier de Seton. Seier’s father, Count Lambert of Lens died at the battle of Lille in 1055, he left two sons…He must, therefore, have been married and widowed before he wed Adele in 1054. … (according to) Domesday Book 1086 had gone to Scotland passed his possessions to his own elder son, another Walter, “Walter Flandrensis aka Walter the Fleming. The ‘Odell’ lineage begins with Walter the Fleming… Walter de Wahull, son of Walter the Fleming… it appears that Walter the Fleming refers to Seier de Seton aka Walter the Fleming (not his younger brother Walter -as I had previously assumed).

The Early Seton’s Descent -http://www2.thesetonfamily.com/history/The_Early_Setons.htm

Family “lineage chart” -http://www2.thesetonfamily.com/directory/Descents/early_seton_descent.htm The Early Seton's Descent.

    The family were long to have been known as Flemish and of Carolingian lineage, and from a manuscript at the British Museum from the 16th century it states that "their surname came home with King Malcolm Canmore IV of England" [*ERROR -(Jody Gray) should be Malcolm III, King of Alba (Scotland) began his reign ca 1058 *refer to the earlier statement in The French Connection: The Seton estate was actually in Scotland granted by King Malcolm III of Scotland to Seier after the latter had fled northwards in the late 1060’s after a military misadventure had brought him into serious disfavor with William I of England.] - "gave to the predecessor and forebear of my Lord Seytoun the surname of Seytoun (Seton)… by reason that the gentleman... possessed the lands of Seytoun for the time... that lands are called Seytoun for one because they lay hard upon the Sey cost and the Town thereof is near to the Sey."

    Walter de Seton, also known as Dougall, succeeded his father Seier de Lens/de Seton … Walter de Lens, also known as Walter the Fleming as they came from Flanders, married Jonet de Quincy, daughter and heiress of Robert de Quincy. She brought as her dowry, the lands of St. Germains and Winton to the Seton family; children: Walter and Sicher (Seirer, Saher), Ada. Walter Flandrensis or De Cambray, a younger brother of Seier came to England in 1066, and in 1086 (Domesday Book) held a barony in Bedford, Bucks, and, of which Woodhull or Wahull was the chief seat, and from him descended the barons of Wahull by writ, 1295.

    Seier de Seton and his brother Walter were sons of Count Eustace I’s second son Count Lambert de Lens and Adelaide of Normandy, daughter of Robert I, Duke of Normandy and sister of William the Conqueror. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_II,_Count_of_Lens]. They were known in their Flemish homeland as Seier and Walter de Lens (Flanders); they were lineally descended in both Eustace I’s mother and father from King Charles I, Charlemagne, Holy Roman Emperor and the first of the Carolingian Empire.

    Their father died in 1054, killed in the battle of Lille -he was supporting Baldwin V, Count of Flanders against Henry III, Holy Roman Emperor); his sons were too young to administer the important estate of Lens; they followed the Flemish military contingent into England with their half-sister’s husband, Duke William of Normandy (he became King of England after the Battle of Hastings).

    In later years, (the brother) Seier moved to Scotland after he was later granted lands by the Scottish king, Malcolm Canmore.

Other Sources for “The House of Seton”

http://www2.thesetonfamily.com/history/History_of_the_Setons.htm

From the descendants of King Charles I of France, or Charlemagne, they were the seniors of the bloodline known as the Carolingians and were local rulers governing small territories and peoples in the Comte (county) of Flanders, before a single family line emerged by the end of the eleventh century in Scotland, founded by Seier de Seton (Seier, Scots vulgo of French = Seigneur, the Baron of Seton).

    By Royal Grant, they obtained the addition to their shield of the royal or double tressure.  Their earliest motto, ‘Hazard Yet Forward,’ is descriptive of their military ardour and dauntless courage. They were conspicuous throughout their whole history for their loyalty and firm attachment to the Stewart dynasty, in whose cause they later perilled and lost their titles and extensive estates.

     In the twelfth century there was marriage with the de Quincy's and the Seton's became heirs of that family through the eventual female heiress.  Though politics denied them of the Earldom of Winchester, they began to be constantly referred to as the "Earls of Seton".

Forfeiture of the family’s titles and estates…

   Though the family argued for, and negotiated, the Union of the Crowns in 1603, which was followed later by the Union of the Parliaments in 1707, they opposed the Hanoverian replacement for the Stuart Monarchy after the death of Queen Anne in 1714.  The German-loyal troops raided and desecrated the family's properties as incitement in light of the family's Jacobite sympathies, which forced them into open rebellion against the Crown and ultimately forced the forfeiture of the family's titles and estates, which were never restored.

Comte de Flandre - County Flanders

The County of Flanders was a historic territory in the Low Countries. From 862 on-wards the Counts of Flanders were one of the original twelve peers of the Kingdom of France… Viking raiders… and conquest… Often these individuals were the descendants of people associated with Charlemagne.

     The county of Flanders originated from the Gau of Pagus Flandrensis, led by the Forestiers dynasty, who had been appointed by Charlemagne, who had made a small contribution by uniting small feudal territories in the higher parts of the Flemish Valley. The forestiers dynasty also strengthened the hold of the church on the relatively desolate area.

    The first Count of Flanders was Baldwin I, who became count in 862, he eloped with Judith of West Francia, daughter of the Frankish king Charles the Bald… he gave his son-in-law the title of count and the corresponding feudal territories as dowry… The House of Flanders stayed in power until 1119, when Baldwin VII of Flanders died heirless…

Leading up to the “Battle of Hastings” - William the Conqueror - after he becomes William King… he rewards those who helped him

    Baldwin V, Count of Flanders… since 1060 he had been regent in France… his daughter Matilda was the wife of William, Duke of Normandy.  When it became known that William of Normandy preparing an expedition against England, Baldwin was placed upon the horns of a dilemma. By virtue of his daughter’s marriage Baldwin had been able to wield influence in Normandy, and to function as mediator between his ward and his son-in-law; while in 1060 certain French magnates had sworn to obey him… He must, therefore, weigh his duty to Phillip and France against his devotion to Matilda and the Normans. A decision was the more difficult because his alliance with Normandy and his regency in France had both served to strengthen his position at home. (De Smet has asserted that Baldwin) as regent of France, refused the aid which William claimed, but as marquis of Flanders, furnished his son-in-law (William, Duke of Normandy) with aid in vessels and troops…

   However, if Baldwin did not directly aid in the work of the Conquest by word or deed, he affected its success profoundly by maintaining what in modern times would be described as a benevolent neutrality…. He took no measures to block the ambitious project of his son-in-law (William, Duke of Normandy).

    Flemings were found in the force which William gathered for the invasion of England. It is safe to assume that the presence of certain barons of Flanders on the famous (battlefield of Hastings) field was accounted for by their hunger for land and money.

   References to them have not been found until we come to the year 1084 (through the Domesday Book) gives us evidence of Flemish holdings in four of the five counties of which it treats; from the Domesday Book itself… that the most valuable information on our subject is derived. The Great Inquest not only records the presence of certain Flemings in England in 1086; but provides us with a rough index of the value placed by William upon their services in the years when his new kingdom was won and consolidated.

  It should be clear… that William (King of England) set no little store by the services of those we have been able to discover. Most of them held lands in many places and we may properly infer that they rendered the king services whose among was in keeping with the size of the grants made by him.

Eustace of Boulogne    As we should be led to expect from his prominence at Hastings Eustace of Boulogne (he alone of the Flemings is mentioned by name in accounts of the battle, in which his exploits were notable) is credited with the greatest number of estates and, from an agricultural point of view, most valuable in Essex… only in Kent and Oxford did the teams (tenets) on the great episcopal landlord’s estates equal or exceed those of Eustace in Essex… (his) position is rendered the more exceptional by the fact that there were 95 tenants in chief in Essex. He was a great landholder elsewhere… in none of the last named shires were there less than 45 tenants in chief.

Walter the Fleming  . ..Walter the Fleming had three estates in Bedford and Northampton.

    In Bedford Walter the Fleming was a large holder of land… the Wahull (Odell) Castle is located here. In Northampton, the last of the adjoining counties in which the Flemish element was strong, Walter the Fleming… were the Flemings whose tenements  [a piece of land held by an owner] were most numerous… in the town of Northampton Walter the Fleming (had) ten… In Bedford and in Northampton the teams on Walter the Fleming’s lands constituted 1/19 and 1/18 of the total teams of laymen in the respective counties, while the relative importance of this tenant’s Bedfordshire estates is emphasized by the fact that there were over a hundred tenants in chief in this Midland county. An additional subtenant [a person who leases property from a tenant.] in this county was Otbert, father of Alouf of Merk (a tenant[a person who occupies land or property rentd from a landlord.] of Walter the Fleming).

Matilda of Flanders married William, Duke of Normandy https://www.geni.com/people/Matilda-of-Flanders/6000000009432318518 Matilda of Flanders (geni.com) b. 1032, Ghent, East Flanders, Flanders, Belguim. D. 11/2/1083, Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France. Daughter of Baldwin V, count of Flanders and Adele de France. M: William “The Conqueror”, King of England. Children (Gundred is not listed).

Her father, Baldwin V of Flanders aka Baudouin .http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinVdied1067B     Baudouin aka Baldwin V, Count of Flanders, son of Baudouin IV, Count of Flanders; after 1028 he led a rebellion against his father who was forced to take refuge in Normandy. After his father returned with reinforcements, Baudouin submitted but was allowed to rule jointly. He succeeded his father in 1035 as Boudouin V, Count of Flanders. He acquired over-lordship of the county of Lens from the counts of Boulogne…

    On the death of Henri I King of France in 1060, Count Baudouin became regent of France for his nephew King Philippe I. He married (1029 Adela de France, daughter of Robert II King of France, Corbi was her dowry. She founded the Benedictine monastery at Messines near Ypres. The had three children, the oldest,  Mathilde of de Flandre (1032) married William of Normandy; who in 1066 became King of England; she was crowned Queen of England 5/11/1068. She acted as regent in Normandy during her husband’s absences in England. It is recorded that she died in 11/2/1083 in Normandy and was buried at Caen, Normandy, France. They had ten children.

Gundred, some claim she was the daughter of King William and Matilda of Flandershttp://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=john_d_newport&id=I8838     Gundred b. Abt 1063 in Flanders, France. Died in childbirth 5/27/1085 in Castle Acre, Norfolk, England.. Burial: near Lewes, after 5/27/1085, St. John the Baptist Church, Southover, East Sussex, England. Names: Gundred of England, Gundreda de Flanders, Gundred of Normandy. B. Neustria abt 1063, Normandy, France. Burial: Lewes Priory, Lewes, East Sussex, England. Married William I De Warrenne. Children: William II de Warrene 2nd Earl of Surrey, Edith de Warren, Reynold de Warenne.

No verified parentage; some claim she was King William and Matilda of Flanders; following are some examples: Father may be William the Conqueror. Child of Matilda prior to her marriage to William the Conqueror. Sister of Gerbod the Fleming. Daughter of Gerbod, Advocate of St Butin at St. Omer, Earl of Chester; sister of Gerbod the Fleming, Earl of Chester…

    Possibly thought to be evidence of this claim: buried with her husband in the Church of John the Baptist, Southover, near Lewes. The inscription on, or near her tombstone, in the arch of the Shirley Chancel, belonging to the parish church of Isfield is as follows: “Within this Pew stands the Tombstone of Gundred, daughter of William the Conqueror, and wife of William, Earl of Warren, which having been deposited over her remains in the Chapter House of Lewes Priory, and lately discovered in Isfield Church, was removed to this place at the expense of William Burrell, Esq. A.D. 1775” Note (Jody Gray): William Burrell most likely provided the inscription, 690 years after her death, I find no reference to his source. Wikipedia has this to say: It was at one time thought that Gundred was daughter of William the Conqueror and his wife Matilda of Flanders. This was disproved in the 19th Century but nevertheless remains in many faulty genealogies. William (de Warene) and Gundred were married around 1070, when her brother Frederick was killed by Hereward the Wake.

    I found the following website that contains information from documents. http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/gundred/gundocs.shtml

The Family of Gerbod and Gundred: Much of the evidence below is taken from the records of St Bertin's Abbey in St Omer, of which the family of Gundred and Gerbod were advocates. The original records of St Bertin were lost in the aftermath of the French Revolution. Fortunately the material survived in a number of copies. *William I gave Surrey to William of Warenne, who married Gundred the sister of Gerbod… Confirmed by William I to the monastery of St Pancras at Lewes, for the souls of Edward the Confessor and others, including William and his wife Gundred, of the manor of [West] Walton in Norfolk…

    There are several “narratives” stating Gundred/Gundrada was daughter of King William and/or Matilda; there is also a statement made by a historian of more recent times that the reference to Queen Matilda as the mother of Gundred are contradicted by other evidence… Various more or less speculative attempts have been made to explain the reference to Gundred as “the stock of dukes”, but there is no definite evidence to explain the statement.

    There are several listings that validate the marriage of Gundred to William I De Warenne and provide useful information: William the First de Warenne first Earl of Surrey and founder of the church of Lewes (1078) died 24 June in the year of grace 1088... He at first was only called simply William de Warenne… by William the King and Conqueror of England… he was much honoured and was made and called Earl of Surrey. He lies in the Chapterhouse of Lewes beside Lady Gundrada... This Earl continued through the whole time of William the Conqueror, for 20 years, and for one year in the time of King William II Rufus… made his sons William in England and Reyhold in Flanders his heirs by the king’s decree. Gundred [Lewes cartulary: Gundred’s death at Castle Acre, 1085] wife of William the first [Earl of Surrey], died in the pangs of childbirth at Castle Acre 27 May 1085 and the 3rd year before her husband. She lies buried in the Chapterhouse of Lewes with her husband -Printed in Sussex Record Society (1934), from a Lewes cartulary compiled in 1444. The statement about Gundred's death seems to have been universally accepted, although it occurs in a document written three and a half centuries after the event, and immediately follows the statements that Gundred was William I's daughter (which everyone agrees she was not), and that she was Countess of Surrey (which she could not have been if she died in 1085). Evidently it was part of the tradition at Lewes that Gundred had died before William, being stated or implied also in the spurious Warenne charters, and in the later reference to the gift of West Walton by William of Warenne (Lewes documents, (iv)). On the other hand, Orderic implies that she survived her husband: Earl William did have a wife who survived him is proved by a reference to his widow sending alms to the monks of Ely shortly after his death… suggesting that his widow was a subsequent wife, possibly the sister of Richard Guet.

She married William I De Warenne, Seigneur De Warennes, Earl of Surrey; mother of William II, Earl of Warenne and Surrey. William is one of the few who was documented to have been with William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. He was the younger son of Ranulf I de Warenne and Beatrice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Surrey

Lineage of William de Warenne

http://www.lewespriory.org.uk/gundrada_chapel

Lewes Priory Trust. Gundrada Chapel, Church of St John the Baptist, Southover.

Odell Castle  -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odell_Castle  -was an 11th-century castle in the village of Odell, in the county of Bedfordshire,England. The land where Odell Castle stood was originally owned by Levenot, a thegn of King Edward the Confessor. At the time, the land and village were called Wahull. After the Norman invasion,William the Conqueror gave the lands, manor, and title, to Walter de Flandrensis (circa 1068). Walter was titled the Baron of Wahull, and was thus recorded as Walter de Wahul. De Wahul built a motte-and-bailey castle, with a stonekeep, on the land. The family lived here for some 400 years.

    In 1542, the title died out with the absence of a male heir and came into the possession of 17-year-old Agnes Woodhall, a descendant of de Wahul's. Upon her death in 1575 it passed to her son Richard Chetwood, who sold it to William Alston in 1633. The family were later created Alston baronets of Odell. By the time of the sale, the castle was already in ruins. Alston built a new residence, incorporating the remains of the keep, the oval motte of the old castle still held up by a retaining wall. Alterations were made by his descendants in the 18th century. It stayed as thus until 24 February 1931, when the manor burnt down. A new manor house was built on the site in 1962; it is currently owned by Lord Luke.

Odell-L Archives -http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ODELL/2000-11/0974932440 -Subject: Origin of Odell Surname -Part 2. Extracted from the book, ODELL GENEALOGY, compiled by Minnie A. Lewis Pool.

    The first Odell was Walter Flandrensis, the last Count of Flanders, brother of Matilda of Flanders, wife of William the Conqueror, with whom he came to England in 1066 and became the first Baron Odell. He held a great barony in Bucks, England, in 1086, of which Wahull or Woodhull, meaning wood hill, was the chief county seat, and from him descended the Barons Wahul, Wodhull, Woodhull, Odell, which is found spelled various ways in the old records: Odel, Odle, Oadele, Odil, etc. All Odells undoubtedly descend from Walter related to at least four kings of England, William the Norman, Alfred the Great, Edward the Second and Henry the VIII. The title from which the name was derived was bestowed in 1066. There are compilations by Odell genealogists that make the claim that there exists in the possession of the Counts of Flanders a complete and unbroken record traced back to Priam, the King of Troy, about 1200. B.C.

    The titles and estates were bestowed upon the first Baron Odell by William the Conqueror for distinguished military services in the conquest of England. The head of the barony was at Odell, Bedfordshire, England, where Odell church and Odell castle remain.

http://www.rockystrickland.com/stricklandsofsizergh_3.pdf -Doomsday shows that Walter “Flandrensis” (of 1986) had succeeded a certain Saier in the Bedfordshire manor or Southhill prior to the date of the General Survey; and, as this unusual christian names was afterwards borne by Walter’s great-grandson, Saier de Wahull, there seems good reason for regarding the original Saier of Southill as Walter’s father. A “Watler brother of Saier” was the Doomsday lord of Segenhoe, Beds.: and, since Hugh le Fleming held of him (in Silsoe) and Seganhoe itself was later treated as part of the Wahull barony, “Walter brother of Saier” was evidently Walter of Wahull’s uncle… those of the powerful Flemish family of d’Oisy, catellalans of Cambrai, who claimed descent from the ancient Counts of Lens…
http://opendomesday.org/name/561500/walter-of-flanders/ -Domesday Book, Name: Walter of Flanders. Name associated with 0 places before the Conquest; 13 after the Conquest. Lord in 1086: (all Bedfordshire): Holme, Langford, Stratton, Southill, Odell (Woodhull). Tenant-in-chief in 1086 (Bedfordshire): Astwick, Holme, Langford, Stratton, Henlow, Podington, Totternhoe, Milton [Ernest], Southill, Odell (Woodhull), Thurleigh, Turvey, Wymington. 

New information added, 12/9/2016:

http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/seton2.html

  As their own distinctive crescents show, Seier de Seton and his brother Walter sprang from a second son of the house of Boulogne. Known in their Flemish homeland as Seier and Walter de Lens, they were sons of Count Eustace’s second son, Count Lambert de Lens, whose daughter by a second marriage (to the sister of William the Conqueror) was the Countess Judith, mother of Scotland’s Queen Maud. Seier’s eldest son, Walter de Lens, or Walter the Fleming as he is described in Domesday, had his chief English home at Wahull (now called Odell) in Bedfordshire. On the Firth of Forth, as heir there of his father, Seier, he was called Dougall or "the dark stranger", a nickname which was also given to his own son Walter, and duly recorded by the family’s first official chronicler, Sir Richard Maitland of Lethington, in 1554.

  In both Scotland and Bedfordshire, and no doubt in the lost Yorkshire home of the family, Seier de Lens (or Seier de Seton) and his descendants kept as princely an establishment as they had enjoyed in Flanders – a fact attested by a curious documentary survival. As if he had been a king, Walter de Wahull had tenants-in-chief, each with his own tenants. The terms these courtiers enjoyed on his estates at Odell are known, and although the relevant Scottish documents have not survived, it is certain that the Seton tenants on the Firth of Forth had been given similar privileges. The Victoria County History for Bedfordshire records, not without astonishment, the fairy-tale rents paid by Walter’s knightly tenants in that county as "a rose, an arrow, a handful of rushes, capons, wax, a pair of gloves …" Lesser tenants paid more; the cottager William Prikeavant provided a hooded falcon, while Walter le Sergeaunt, keeper of the park at Odell Castle, held his cottage by the service of twelve arrows. At the neighbouring Little Odell Manor, whose Domesday tenant-in-chief was Walter’s great-uncle, Count Eustace II of Boulogne, the tenancies granted to Eustace’s own attendant knights were similar, "a garland of roses, a bundle of rushes, a cake of wax …"

  One Scottish tenancy tradition which has survived concerns the Tower at Tranent, which was held of the crown first by de Quincy and then by Seton; it had for payment that most magical of rentals, a rose in midwinter, a snowball in midsummer. The trust implicit in these terms of tenancy was of the same kind as that loyalty which would bind Seton to Scotland, to their cousin Maud and her descendants so long as they sat on the Scottish throne. It was a loyalty which would last unbroken to the disasters of the Fifteen and the Forty-five.Beryl Platts ("Scottish Hazard" vol 1, The Procter Press, 1985)

  Of the Seton family The Great Historic Families Of Scotland says: ‘The Setons are among the most illustrious of the great houses of Scotland, conspicuous throughout their whole history for their loyalty and firm attachment to the Stewart dynasty, in whose cause they perilled and lost their titles and extensive estates.’ The family’s founder, Seier de Seton (or de Lens), had been granted lands in East Lothian to which he gave his own name. His son, Walter de Seton (also called Dougall), married Janet de Quincy, hieress of that once powerful family, and gained the lands of Tranent bordering his own. He also acquired the lands of Wynchburgh, West Lothian. The family continued to marry into powerful alliances and later Sir Christopher Seton (Sir Chrystell) married Christian Bruce, sister of Robert the Bruce. After his legendary support of his brother-in-law he was captured by the English, taken to London, then executed at Dumfries. One of his brothers, Sir John Seton, shared the same fate. Alexander Seton, Sir Christopher's son, survived the wars of independence to be a signatory of the Arbroath Declaration. He also was a recipient of King Robert’s gratitude towards the family: the existing Seton lands were enlarged by means of adding those confiscated from anglo-supporters, and a large stretch of East Lothian coastline became Seton territory.

http://fabpedigree.com/s036/f708511.htm

Dougall de Seton aka Walter (the Fleming) de Lens b. abt 1056 m: Janet de Quincy. *Churchill’s 26th GGM ?

http://fabpedigree.com/s037/f708511.htm

Father, Saher IV de Quincy

Robert I de Quincy (1125 ? - 1197)

Saher de Quency (Lord of Daventry) 1106 ? - 1158

Saher de Quinch

Richard de Quincy

http://fabpedigree.com/s096/f584168.htm

Eustace I (Count) of Boulogne

Lambert II (Count) of Lens

Saher de Say (Seton) b. 1030 ?

Dougall de Seton aka Walter the Fleming b. 1056 ?

Walter (Flandrensis) de Wahull d. 1147 ?

Simon de Wahull (Bedfords d. By 1160

Walter de Wahull d. after 1172 m: Sybil

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