Woodhull-Helme Connection: Dorothy Woodhull b. 2/13/1687 or 88, Suffolk, Long Island, NY. d. 1742. She married William Helme I , b. abt 1686 Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY d. 1755 Westchester Co, NY
Ancestry.com Helme Family Tree,
Media: [1] Descendants of Woodhull-Helme and [1] Woodhull, Americans of Royal Descent
Thomas Helme is the oldest known progenitor of the lineage of William Helm m: Dorothy Woodhull. His parents are unknown -unverifiable
Media: for Thomas Helme attached to his Ancestry.com Profile Page: Thomas Helms story and Helme House.org internet research and Will of Thomas Helme.
Thomas Helme b. Abt 1665, Massachusetts or New York. Parents, unknown. 12/16/1686, married Mary Mills. d. 1710, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY.
1680, Thomas Helme, Patentee of Brookhaven, Suffolk, New York.
1680, Thomas Helme, Patentee of Brookhaven, Suffolk, New York.
Thomas Helme was commissioned with Richard Woodhull to lay out Little Neck in 1687 [Thomas Helme was recorded to be a surveyor]
Will of Thomas Helme. 7/28/1710. Suffolk, NY. Sons named: William, Thomas, Ans. Proved, 9/28/1710.
Media: for William Helme attached to his Ancestry.com Profile Page: William Helme
William Helme b. abt 1686, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY d. 1755, Suffolk or Orange Co., New York. Married, 1710, Dorothy Woodhull b. 2/13/1687, Brookhaven, Suffolk, New York.
Phineas Helme b. 8/24/1723, Brookhaven, Suffolk, NY d. 6/25/1798, Blooming Grove, Orange Co, NY. Married, Mary Moffatt, d. 1720, NY. d. Blooming Grove, Orange, NY.
Woodhull Helm b. 10/31/1777 d. 9/8/1845, Byron, Ogle Co., Illinois. Note: he’s the first to drop the final letter (e) from the family surname. Married first Eliza McDonald b. before 1778 (based on the date of her marriage); m. before 1798 (based on the birth of her son, George), d. before 1815, (based on the second marriage of Woodhull Helm). Note: I've found no birth, death or marriage records for Eliza McDowell but she’s listed as his wife on church records for birth of their children and she’s listed (Eliza McDonald) on the SAR application as wife of Woodhull Helm). Note (Jody Gray): I have since learned, from the Biographical Sketch of his son, Clinton D. Helm) that Woodhull married three times; refer to Blog Post (Gray-Piper): Thaly Ann Stevens married Woodhull Helm.
References used for Thomas Helm -from my Gray-Piper Family Tree, Media
Media: Will of Thomas Helme
Will - Suffolk. Court of Common Pleas held at Southold in County aforesaid on the 28th day of September in the Ninth year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lady Queen Anne now of Great Britain… Annoq. Dom 1710… The within written Last Will and Testament of the within named Thomas Helme deceased by the oaths of Richard Floyd and Arthur Ffuthy witnesses… Has proved an approved the Executor therein mentioned… [nominate and appoint my said wife to be my executor… Thomas Helme]
Media: Thomas Helms story *another Media: Helme House.org internet research contains the same information.
Thomas Helme 1656-1710, Setauket (Brookhaven), Suffolk, NY
B. 1656 -tradition says MA; Susan Austin’s Rootsweb file says Salem
D. Brookhaven, Suffolk (Long Island), NY
Father: unknown. Note: conjectured that his father was William, his grandfather Christopher (of Rhode Island). Recent research, as well as recent yDNA studies, have shown this to be improbable.
Mother: Unknown. Siblings. Unknown.
Married (12/16/1686) Mary Mills Norton, widow of Nathaniel Norton. She was daughter of either Isaac or Richard Mills, both of Southampton.
Nathaniel Norton (5/29/1639, Salem, MA - 11/7/1685, Brookhaven, NY). Children with Nathaniel: Isaac, Nathaniel, George, Jonathan, Mary, Sarah and Hannah.
Note: the name of his wife was unknown for a long time. However, one of the records preserved at the Thomas Helme House site - an indenture dated 11/20/1695 (but not recorded) between Nathaniel Norton, Mary Helme and William Smith - proves at least that Nathaniel Norton’s mother Mary was identical with Mary Helme. (In another record - a deposition by Jonathan Norton for a boundary dispute - Jonathan refers to “father Helme”) I do not have proof for her maiden name Mills, but considering how careful the researchers I am copying from are, I assume there is good reason for it.
Children of Thomas Helme and Mary Mills: William (our next ancestor) b. 1696-88 d. 1755. m: Temperance Woodhull. Note: I have Dorothy Woodhull - Temperance Fordham m: Richard Woodhull II are her parents. Thomas 1703-1729 m: Johanna Miller. Ans (Ansel, Anselm, Ants) 1704-? Four daughters (Hannah, one born 1702, one 1705 and Martha born 1705.
Thomas Helme was commissioned with Richard Woodhull to lay out Little Neck in 1687 [we know he served as surveyor]
Records from the Helme House Archives:
6/10/1664: Massatewse and the Sunke Squaw sold the tract of land called the “ould man’s” to the inhabitants of Setauket (Brookhaven Town Records, Book A, pt 1)
11/3/1680: Indenture between Thomas Helme and William Jayne
2/18/1681: Thomas Helme to build a house for John Roe
3/10/1685: Thomas Helme chosen surveyor of the town
12/13/1686: married Mary Mills, widow of Nathaniel Norton
8/20/1690: Indenture between Thomas Helme and John Thomas
11/20/1695: Indenture between Nathaniel Norton, Mary Helme and William Smith (unrecorded)
6/12/1704: Indenture between Thomas Helme and William Jayne
9/7/1707: Martha Smith left him 40 shillings “to buy him a ring” in her will; witnessed by Thomas, Daniel Brewster, Dorothy Woodhull
9/28/1710: Will of Thomas Helme proved. Sons named: William, Thomas, Ans. [Will written, 7/28/1710]
“The Lester Will Book”: The original Thomas Helme of Brookhaven town, tradition says, came here from Massachusetts… Not among the first who settled here, but appears to have been living in Setauket previous to 1680 [Patentee of Brookhaven]… He left but one child, a son, Thomas, who was brought up by his uncle and guardian, Andrew Miller. After arriving at manhood he built the house at Miller’s Place where Mr. George P. Helme, one of his descendants, now resides.
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